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The Scottish Green Party has been ripped apart by LGBTQ+ activists – Environmentalists who need a voice should vote ALBA

Women’s rights ignored -a warning to be heeded

The Scottish Green Party joined with the SNP and formed the government at Holyrood. Harvie and Sturgeon will be able to make major advances in their declared social behaviour agendas. Voters evidently choose to ignore the worrying excesses of a number of their favoured policies.

The discredited Yogyakarta principles will be fully implemented and other trans-rights and GRA policies will be forced onto statute by the government without consultation and with the active assistance and support of the all-powerful “Equality Network”.

But a majority of voters are deeply concerned about the Scottish government’s plans to remove women’s rights and the exposure of their families to the regulatory imposition of oppressive social norms

Fortunately, Scottish independence-minded women have the recently formed feminist influenced ALBA to give their support to and it is hoped they will rally to the Party and assist its growth.

Other reading: https://caltonjock.com/2021/04/19/the-okedokees-of-the-snp-greens-lib-dems-are-intent-on-selling-scottish-women-down-the-river/

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SNP 'works best under pressure' without a majority in Holyrood say Greens -  Daily Record

23 Apr 2019: Green Party Leader accused of being a misogynist

The blog “A Thousand Flowers” posted a derogatory twitter article declaring Joan McAlpine SNP the winner of its weekly wanker accolade for airing her views about the rights of women and transgender people.

Patrick Harvie couldn’t resist commenting and shared it with his followers writing: “If the SNP wants to be a safe and supportive place for trans and gender non conforming people, they have to squarely take on those trying to prevent trans people having the same rights as anyone else“.

Twitter users were horrified. A spokeswoman for the Scottish Women’s blog tweeted “Good grief! I’m horrified that Harvie could ever retweet an abusive blog about another politician. Surely this goes against the code of conduct expected from our parliamentarians?” Her comments were echoed by other contributors.

Harvie has form. In a previous Twitter exchange, he questioned the online abuse Joan had received when he said: “there is a serious debate to be had about such “abuse” but we can’t have it if people react with outrage to complaints from anti-trans campaigners but say nothing of the horrific wave of transphobic hostility, prejudice and violence that’s destroying people’s everyday lives”.

To which Joan responded: “My comments were in response to (male to a female) trans activists who called me trash and justified violence against women who disagree with them. And the male leader of the Green Party in Scotland pins his colours firmly to she was asking for it mast.”

Harvie replied: “It’s disappointing that Joan McAlpine and a few others in the SNP have promoted anti-trans rhetoric in recent months, and apparently want to roll back trans people’s equality and human rights. Those attitudes and actions should be challenged, robustly but without abuse.”

Joan said: “Patrick Harvie should be ashamed of trying to justify the online abuse of women and indulging in it himself. Women are concerned their rights to privacy, fairness and dignity and safety are affected by proposals that mean males can legally become women without surgery, medical diagnosis or gatekeeping. It is not “anti-trans” to question this proposal, but doing so has resulted in women being abused or threatened with violence. That Patrick Harvie seems to think they are asking for it is very worrying but bullies will not silence us.”

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23 Jun 2019: Harvie stirs the sh*t at the Edinburgh Pride march

I met up with around a dozen like-minded friends aged between 20-and 60. Some were wearing t-shirts proudly proclaiming “we are Lesbians”. We wanted to ensure lesbians would be visible yet despite an outward display of confidence we were alerted to an undercurrent of nervousness between the marchers and ourselves. Our apprehension was based on the negative attitude of other groups who did not approve of relationships that excluded men in our choice of partners. Acceptable? Yes!! but only if we conducted our chosen lifestyle in secret.

But we displayed our banners and sang our songs. Other lesbians came up to us and said they wished they had known we were marching and bemoaned the lack of Lesbian spaces and community in Scotland. They waved their hand-made purple and black placards, courageously yet quietly proclaiming their Lesbian existence and relieved to have the support and solidarity of like-minded people. There was an act of physical aggression against our group when an angry young person grabbed a placard and destroyed it screaming “TERF” but the stewards soon restored order.

But what was chilling and caused fear in our group was the content of speeches from MSPs who addressed the crowd at a pre-march rally, from the top of an open-top bus. In particular, the words of Patrick Harvie, Green MSP, said “I am sorry that this parliament very recently was used as a platform for transphobic hatred and bigotry”. And went on to say he felt compelled to apologise for the undemocratic workings of Parliament, and its decision to put a hold on GRA reform until it had been fully considered and deliberated by a broad range of groups who might be affected and, importantly, the conflation of sex and gender that has infested policy-making in Scotland. His speech whipped the crowd into a frenzy since they had already been warmed up by previous similar speeches. And whilst the promoted theme of the “Pride” was “Be Yourself”, the real focus was not about the right to be loved and to express love without prejudice, it was about “trans-rights” and only that.

Thanks to the spittle infused rhetoric espoused by Harvie our group’s situation was upscaled from hostile to dangerous. We feared for our safety and attack from the mob since immediately after, a number of people started shouting “get the TERFs out” They meant us and we had already been blocked in by some very large people with “Trans” and “Non-Binary” flags draped over their shoulders cancelling out our groups “lesbian visibility” banners.

It later transpired that lesbians had abandoned the march after they had been harassed by “trans-rights” activists who accused them of being bigots for standing up for female rights and forcing politicians to add their support. Lesbians were no longer welcomed at “Pride” marches.

Full story here: https://womansplaceuk.org/2019/06/23/lesbians-at-edinburgh-pride-a-personal-account/

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The Scottish Green Party joined with the SNP and formed the government at Holyrood. Harvie Sturgeon will be able to make major advances in their declared social behaviour agendas. Voters evidently choose to ignore the worrying excesses of a number of their favoured policies.

The discredited Yogyakarta principles will be fully implemented and other trans-rights and GRA policies will be forced onto statute by the government without consultation and with the active assistance and support of the all-powerful “Equality Network”.

But a majority of voters are deeply concerned about the Scottish government’s plans to remove women’s rights and the exposure of their families to the regulatory imposition of oppressive social norms

Fortunately, Scottish independence-minded women have the recently formed feminist influenced ALBA to give their support to and it is hoped they will rally to the Party and assist its growth.

Other reading: https://caltonjock.com/2021/04/19/the-okedokees-of-the-snp-greens-lib-dems-are-intent-on-selling-scottish-women-down-the-river/

SNP 'works best under pressure' without a majority in Holyrood say Greens -  Daily Record

23 Apr 2019: Green Party Leader accused of being a misogynist

The blog “A Thousand Flowers” posted a derogatory twitter article declaring Joan McAlpine SNP the winner of its weekly wanker accolade for airing her views about the rights of women and transgender people.

Patrick Harvie couldn’t resist commenting and shared it with his followers writing: “If the SNP wants to be a safe and supportive place for trans and gender non conforming people, they have to squarely take on those trying to prevent trans people having the same rights as anyone else“.

Twitter users were horrified. A spokeswoman for the Scottish Women’s blog tweeted “Good grief! I’m horrified that Harvie could ever retweet an abusive blog about another politician. Surely this goes against the code of conduct expected from our parliamentarians?” Her comments were echoed by other contributors.

Harvie has form. In a previous Twitter exchange, he questioned the online abuse Joan had received when he said: “there is a serious debate to be had about such “abuse” but we can’t have it if people react with outrage to complaints from anti-trans campaigners but say nothing of the horrific wave of transphobic hostility, prejudice and violence that’s destroying people’s everyday lives”.

To which Joan responded: “My comments were in response to (male to a female) trans activists who called me trash and justified violence against women who disagree with them. And the male leader of the Green Party in Scotland pins his colours firmly to she was asking for it mast.”

Harvie replied: “It’s disappointing that Joan McAlpine and a few others in the SNP have promoted anti-trans rhetoric in recent months, and apparently want to roll back trans people’s equality and human rights. Those attitudes and actions should be challenged, robustly but without abuse.”

Joan said: “Patrick Harvie should be ashamed of trying to justify the online abuse of women and indulging in it himself. Women are concerned their rights to privacy, fairness and dignity and safety are affected by proposals that mean males can legally become women without surgery, medical diagnosis or gatekeeping. It is not “anti-trans” to question this proposal, but doing so has resulted in women being abused or threatened with violence. That Patrick Harvie seems to think they are asking for it is very worrying but bullies will not silence us.”

23 Jun 2019: Harvie stirs the sh*t at the Edinburgh Pride march

I met up with around a dozen like-minded friends aged between 20-and 60. Some were wearing t-shirts proudly proclaiming “we are Lesbians”. We wanted to ensure lesbians would be visible yet despite an outward display of confidence we were alerted to an undercurrent of nervousness between the marchers and ourselves. Our apprehension was based on the negative attitude of other groups who did not approve of relationships that excluded men in our choice of partners. Acceptable? Yes!! but only if we conducted our chosen lifestyle in secret.

But we displayed our banners and sang our songs. Other lesbians came up to us and said they wished they had known we were marching and bemoaned the lack of Lesbian spaces and community in Scotland. They waved their hand-made purple and black placards, courageously yet quietly proclaiming their Lesbian existence and relieved to have the support and solidarity of like-minded people. There was an act of physical aggression against our group when an angry young person grabbed a placard and destroyed it screaming “TERF” but the stewards soon restored order.

But what was chilling and caused fear in our group was the content of speeches from MSPs who addressed the crowd at a pre-march rally, from the top of an open-top bus. In particular, the words of Patrick Harvie, Green MSP, said “I am sorry that this parliament very recently was used as a platform for transphobic hatred and bigotry”. And went on to say he felt compelled to apologise for the undemocratic workings of Parliament, and its decision to put a hold on GRA reform until it had been fully considered and deliberated by a broad range of groups who might be affected and, importantly, the conflation of sex and gender that has infested policy-making in Scotland. His speech whipped the crowd into a frenzy since they had already been warmed up by previous similar speeches. And whilst the promoted theme of the “Pride” was “Be Yourself”, the real focus was not about the right to be loved and to express love without prejudice, it was about “trans-rights” and only that.

Thanks to the spittle infused rhetoric espoused by Harvie our group’s situation was upscaled from hostile to dangerous. We feared for our safety and attack from the mob since immediately after, a number of people started shouting “get the TERFs out” They meant us and we had already been blocked in by some very large people with “Trans” and “Non-Binary” flags draped over their shoulders cancelling out our groups “lesbian visibility” banners.

It later transpired that lesbians had abandoned the march after they had been harassed by “trans-rights” activists who accused them of being bigots for standing up for female rights and forcing politicians to add their support. Lesbians were no longer welcomed at “Pride” marches.

Full story here: https://womansplaceuk.org/2019/06/23/lesbians-at-edinburgh-pride-a-personal-account/

4 replies on “The Scottish Green Party has been ripped apart by LGBTQ+ activists – Environmentalists who need a voice should vote ALBA”

The complete absence of intellect where you question and seek to clarify is profound in Scottish government circles now. It is all visceral posturing and “literally” killing people if you question their motives. If it was only genuine body dysphoric trans identified individuals, it would be different, but it is not. There are “literally” – that word again, hundreds of thousands of men who ‘woman face’ in order to service their fetish. That is the truth of it. It is not transphobic to say so because it is the plain truth, and it was Stonewall and its trans allies who widened the trans identity to include them. It is one thing for Stonewall to include fetishistic men if they are prepared to admit that is what they are and make some effort to differentiate, but they don’t.

Women and girls are expected to shoulder the entire burden of a mental illness which is not theirs, pander and fawn over it and throw open every door to it. The really sick thing is that the genuine body dysphoric trans identified men do not want to access all female spaces and rights, though they might use our bathrooms – which can be fixed very quickly by introducing third spaces. No, it is – as if we couldn’t have guessed – the sexual fetishists who want access to our spaces and rights to service their paraphilia. That is where all the ‘just be kind’ falls down.

A message for Patrick Harvie, misogynist, and his equally misogynistic sidekick from Tranada, Lorna Slater (oh, yes, females can be misogynists, too): introduce a bill that widens access to male spaces and rights for those who do not conform to the usual masculine norms and leave us alone. We will never accept it. Just this week, we heard from the States of a trans identified male who murdered a woman in horrific circumstances, drank her blood, stole everything she had and was incarcerated in a women’s prison in New Jersey. Buy, hey, Paddy, Lorna and Nikki – oh, and Ms Robison – this NEVER happens.

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Your observations are clearly gathered from a knowledge of the subject which adds to the weight of the arguments you advance. For my part I am able to confirm through the assertions of a transgender acquaintance that although she genders herself a trans-woman he is acutely aware that nature has been cruel in respect of the body it burdened him with but he is respectful of society norms and would never classify himself as a woman or use facilities set aside for them. On occasions I have been in his company and availed myself of the toilet he joined me on three occasions on the men’s side albeit he doesn’t not do his business standing up in preference for the privacy of a unit. Come to think of it I was probably his minder.

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