Time To Dispel The Myth – There Is No Anti-Independence Consensus Within the Tory Party in Scotland – Rooth The Mooth Davidson And Her Acolytes Are Pushing Her Agenda

 

 

 

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Federalism or Independence – Andy Maciver is a former Scottish Conservative Head of Communications.

The 2015 General Election campaign propelled David Cameron back into Downing Street pulling England towards the Tories and pushing even more of Scotland into the welcoming arms of the SNP, both at the expense of Labour.

However, it was poisonous for the Union, and poisonous for the Scottish Conservative Party.

And the exasperating irony is that the Prime Minister and advisors hold the antidote in the palm of their hands. Federalism.

Federalism is the recovery formula for both country and party. It can equalise and heal the British state, which remains one of the developed world’s most centralised.

And it can free the Conservative movements in the north of England and Scotland to make the case for workers’ conservatism without the intoxicating influence of London.

There is no shame in this. There is no shame in letting go. Decentralisation leads to cohesion.

British devolution is a recipe for conflict and chaos. It is not working; it is never going to work.

There is increasing realisation that the only two outcomes are independence  (for Scotland, at least) or federalism.

The time has now come for Conservatives to do the right thing. Stand up. Face up. Speak up and Act in support of Federalism:  (conservativehome)

 

 

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Conservatives For Independence – Comments Submitted By Tory Party Supporters

By any definition, Scotland has already left the Union. Its politics and its national sense of identity make it at best a semi-detached reluctant appendage and at worst a major problem for the English.

The UK must federalise or England must accept the inevitable and make the positive decision to end the Union for itself.

The map is clear for conservatives.  Scotland is ‘yellow’ and England is overwhelmingly ‘blue’ and there is no electoral advantage whatsoever in pretending otherwise.

Nor is there any moral purpose in deploying all the arguments used by the old empire loyalists in the early 20th Century who genuinely believed that we would be ‘better together’ under some form of Imperial Parliament. They were wrong then and ‘Unionists’ are wrong today.

There is therefore only one option. Independence for both Scotland and England.

We would have to come to terms with the loss of ‘our’ highlands, golden eagles, loch Ness monsters and golf courses and they would have to come to terms with becoming a bit like Norway or Denmark.

Both ultimately would benefit. Nobody, after all, would seriously suggest that we should seek a political union with other parts of what were once ‘Britain’ such as Canada, Australia or Ireland.

 

 

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So we’re a family if England love bombs Scotland to stay but we’re not a family if a British party endeavours to run a British election campaign!

If the latter constitutes good cause for the Scottish Conservatives to distance themselves from the English ones because the “British” brand is tarnished,  then it is even more reason for a full and proper separation of Scotland and England.

The Union is not sacrosanct. It can survive only by the genuine willingness of all participants to make it work. That willingness is singularly absent north of the border.

 

 

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It’s often forgotten that until relatively recently the Scots were seen, and saw themselves, as being more ‘conservative’ than the English.

It’s also often forgotten that there are many Scot Nats who are in reality Tartan Tories who, like their left wing brethren, have felt utterly alienated from the Westminster Politicos – from all parties – who have treated the Scots with disdain.

The SNP vote is a political revolution against the SPAD-u-likes in London. The Scot Nats have grown up and matured into a seriously heavyweight political force.

 

 

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I don’t think the ship of Great Britain has sailed but I do think that radical federalist change is needed to energise politics in England and Wales outside London.

It was on this basis that I supported devolution to Scotland and Wales, expecting comparable assemblies to follow in England, but the north-east referendum was ill-defined in its offer, had not looked at the detail of boundaries and loyalties, and seemed transparently a management exercise.

 

 

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I am not impressed by Davidson she has drawn more lines in the sand than a toddler on the beach with a stick.

The other problem is that every time things might change up pops Lord Forsyth and a couple of other unelected pals and show why they lost in 1997.

 

 

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The problem with federalism has always been, and remains, a question of how you provide balance between the component parts of the federation.

There would be too many tensions, Trident & the EU would continue to be points of political conflict. I doubt it is possible, or would work for long.

A confederation, on the other hand, has a better chance of working, because it immediately opens up the possibility of working together as sovereign, independent states.

But giving up sovereignty in the interests of a long-term solution to the problems of the union is likely to be a step too far for Westminster.

 

 

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It is worth remembering that Scotland and England existed as sovereign nations for a much greater period of time than they have been in a Union.

Sure, the relationship was far from easy – but that was then, and our 300 years of learning how to work together will serve us well.

 

 

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Smoke and Mirrors – Westminster Draws a Constitutional Line in the Sand – Retribution Visited Upon Scotland For Having the Nerve to Try to Break Up What Is Laughably Called the Most Successful Union of Nations in History.

 

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Smoke and Mirrors – Westminster Draws a Constitutional Line in the Sand – Retribution Visited Upon Scotland For Having the Nerve to Try to Break Up What Is Laughably Called the Most Successful Union of Nations in History.

Westminster Unionist partys’ offer of devolution of limited fiscal powers to Scotland is driven by the dogma of doing just the minimum to keep Scotland in the UK, whilst reserving power to Westminster.

Preservation of the Ruth Davidson named “pocket money parliament” will be assured if Scots politicians allow themselves to be conned into accepting the proposals presently on offer. What we have is the illusion of a transfer of power with, pinned to it, a not so subtle £6billion reduction in the “Barnett Formula” financial allocation.

This will require the Scottish Government to find new sources of finance, (without borrowing money from the markets) so that existing benefits can be retained and new measures introduced providing assistance to those in need, (eg. removal of the bedroom tax). Income Tax rises would be a consequence, even for the Standard Rate taxpayer since Higher Rate taxpayers in Scotland are insufficient in number to bear the cost of any new financial requirements.

 

 

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Scotland’s government will only be totally responsible when they have access and authority over all of Scotland’s resources and financial income, but Westminster will never willingly allow that since with absolute power retained by Westminster, solving problems in the Scottish economy through increased income tax and other personal taxes will only serve to make the Holyrood parliament very unpopular. This proven tactic of delegating responsibility without authority suits the Westminster agenda.

The “Unionist” partys’ are determined to impose their will, (no matter how long it takes) and Scotland will be asset stripped by stealth so that it becomes ever poorer and increasingly dependent on Westminster’s whims reducing the confidence of Scot’s in their ability to build, without Westminster’s benign governance, a better future for Scot’s as an equal partner within the United Kingdom.

 

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Witnessed by their actions, in the months following the referendum it is clear Westminster remains to be in the business of building failure into any devolved powers instead of doing the right thing, identifying what has the best chance of succeeding and transferring relevant powers and authority to Scotland.

If Westminster is serious about creating a federal state then the truly radical approach would require a team of independent advisors to go away, investigate the construction and governance of successful multi-state countries eg Germany, then report back.

 

 

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Unresolved Aspects:

* The Barnett Formula. Should be retained until reductions are agreed between Westminster and devolved governments.
* Vat collection. Without the ability to vary rates needs to be addressed.
* The Scottish government should be able to raise and lower income tax.
* Multinationals operating out of Scotland, (Tesco, Asda, Morrisons, RBS, BOS, etc) should be liable for tax collection on their sales.
* Authority should be devolved allowing Scotland to gather taxes from Capital trusts etc. who may be practicing tax avoidance by registering in the Bahamas, Channel Isles etc.
* Corporation Tax and Air Passenger Duty, including variance authority should be devolved
* Oil, fuel taxation, excise duty (whisky) should be devolved.

 

 

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Full Fiscal Autonomy

Scottish fiscal autonomy, stopping short of full political independence, forming part of a federal or confederal constitution for the United Kingdom is the way forward. The Scottish Government would be responsible for all financial matters in Scotland, making payments to the UK government covering Scotland’s share of the cost of providing agreed specified UK-wide services, such as, defence and the conduct of foreign relations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_fiscal_autonomy_for_Scotland

 

 

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https://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/blog/scotland-bill-is-not-more-power-delivered/  The Green Party view.